{"id":4075,"date":"2025-05-24T05:59:05","date_gmt":"2025-05-24T05:59:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.sofarsounds.com\/blog\/?p=4075"},"modified":"2025-05-21T19:09:15","modified_gmt":"2025-05-21T19:09:15","slug":"sofar-voices-two-boots-pizza","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.sofarsounds.com\/blog\/articles\/sofar-voices-two-boots-pizza","title":{"rendered":"Sofar Voices: Meet Phil Hartman of Two Boots Pizza"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Before it was a pizza empire, Two Boots was two filmmakers trying to fund their Sundance feature. Nearly 40 years later, the East Village-born pizzeria has become a landmark of a New York slice and creativity. We talked with co-founder Phil Hartman about music, Mardi Gras pies, and the Sofar Shows that keep the magic alive.<\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4083\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4083\" style=\"width: 347px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-4083\" src=\"https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/Phil-Hartman.png?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=png&h=225&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=300&wpsize=medium\" alt=\"\" width=\"347\" height=\"260\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/Phil-Hartman.png?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=png&h=225&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=300&wpsize=medium 300w, https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/Phil-Hartman.png?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=png&h=768&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=1024&wpsize=large 1024w, https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/Phil-Hartman.png?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=png&h=576&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=768&wpsize=medium_large 768w, https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/Phil-Hartman.png?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=png&h=1152&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=1536&wpsize=1536x1536 1536w, https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/Phil-Hartman.png?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=png&h=1536&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=2048&wpsize=2048x2048 2048w, https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/Phil-Hartman.png?crop=faces%2Centropy&fm=png&ixlib=php-3.3.1 1400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 347px) 100vw, 347px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4083\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Phil Hartman, Co-Founder of Two Boots Pizza<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><b>Tell us a bit about Two Boots\u2019 story and how it intersects with NYC\u2019s creative community.<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Two Boots was originally opened by two indie filmmakers\u2014my ex-wife Doris Kornish and me\u2014who needed money to finish our film <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">No Picnic<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, which had been accepted to Sundance. The film went on to win Best Cinematography and earned praise from <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Village Voice<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> (\u201cThe one movie about the East Village that gets it right.\u201d). But Two Boots pizza took off faster than expected and soon demanded all our time. Over the years, we\u2019ve sold over 60 million slices, and I\u2019ve still managed to write and direct two feature films. To feed our love of cinema, we also opened Two Boots Video and the Two Boots Pioneer Theater.<\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4077\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4077\" style=\"width: 295px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4077\" src=\"https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_1966-scaled-e1747772404734.jpeg?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=pjpg&h=285&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=300&wpsize=medium\" alt=\"\" width=\"295\" height=\"280\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_1966-scaled-e1747772404734.jpeg?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=pjpg&h=285&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=300&wpsize=medium 300w, https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_1966-scaled-e1747772404734.jpeg?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=pjpg&h=973&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=1024&wpsize=large 1024w, https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_1966-scaled-e1747772404734.jpeg?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=pjpg&h=730&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=768&wpsize=medium_large 768w, https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_1966-scaled-e1747772404734.jpeg?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=pjpg&h=1460&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=1536&wpsize=1536x1536 1536w, https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_1966-scaled-e1747772404734.jpeg?crop=faces%2Centropy&fm=pjpg&ixlib=php-3.3.1 1657w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 295px) 100vw, 295px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4077\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photo Courtesy of Two Boots Pizza<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><b>How did Two Boots first get involved with Sofar Sounds?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b><\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Great music has always been part of the Two Boots DNA\u2014not just the sounds of New Orleans, but folk, blues, country, jump, jazz, Americana, punk, and pop. All three of our founders’ kids are musicians, and two of them\u2014Odetta Hartman and Camellia Hartman\u2014have active careers as touring artists. They\u2019ve performed at Sofar shows and also help coordinate live music events at our stores. So, partnering with Sofar was a natural fit.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Any fun or memorable moments from a Sofar event?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We had a blast catering the Halloween 2024 Sofar event. Odetta designed a themed pie called <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Ghost Note<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014a spooky spiderweb pizza that looked incredible and fit the vibe perfectly, especially when served by the haunted Sofar crew.<\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4078\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4078\" style=\"width: 266px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-4078\" src=\"https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_0484-scaled.jpg?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=pjpg&h=300&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=225&wpsize=medium\" alt=\"\" width=\"266\" height=\"355\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_0484-scaled.jpg?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=pjpg&h=300&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=225&wpsize=medium 225w, https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_0484-scaled.jpg?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=pjpg&h=1024&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=768&wpsize=medium_large 768w, https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_0484-scaled.jpg?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=pjpg&h=1536&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=1152&wpsize=1536x1536 1152w, https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_0484-scaled.jpg?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=pjpg&h=2048&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=1536&wpsize=2048x2048 1536w, https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_0484-scaled.jpg?crop=faces%2Centropy&fm=pjpg&ixlib=php-3.3.1 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 266px) 100vw, 266px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4078\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">From Sofar NYC Halloween Party with Two Boots Pizza<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><b><i>Quickfire Round!<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>What\u2019s one thing about Two Boots most people don\u2019t know?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0Even some of our longest-time fans don\u2019t know what our name means! The \u201cTwo Boots\u201d represent Italy and Louisiana, because we serve pizza with a Cajun twist.<\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4079\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4079\" style=\"width: 339px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4079\" src=\"https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_5526-scaled-e1747772972682.jpeg?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=pjpg&h=272&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=300&wpsize=medium\" alt=\"\" width=\"339\" height=\"254\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4079\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sofar NYC show with Two Boots<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><b>What\u2019s been one of your wildest pizza creations?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Every Mardi Gras, we roll out <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Swamp Witch<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, which features alligator sausage. People say it \u201ctastes like chicken,\u201d but it\u2019s definitely for the adventurous eaters.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>If you could create a limited-edition Sofar x Two Boots pie, what would be on it?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We\u2019ve created a lot of music-inspired pies over the years\u2014The Meg (Meg White), Radiation Vibe (Fountains of Wayne), Animal Collective, and Buckminster (inspired by Dr. Dog, who requested a Philly-style \u201ctop-sauce\u201d pizza). We’ve also honored legends like Dr. John, Irma Thomas, Charlie Parker, and CBGB itself. So maybe we\u2019d do a mash-up: <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Animal Vibe Queen<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014a \u201csampled\u201d pizza pulling ingredients from all those pies.<\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4080\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4080\" style=\"width: 359px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-4080\" src=\"https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_5547-scaled.jpeg?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=pjpg&h=225&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=300&wpsize=medium\" alt=\"\" width=\"359\" height=\"269\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_5547-scaled.jpeg?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=pjpg&h=225&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=300&wpsize=medium 300w, https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_5547-scaled.jpeg?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=pjpg&h=768&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=1024&wpsize=large 1024w, https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_5547-scaled.jpeg?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=pjpg&h=576&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=768&wpsize=medium_large 768w, https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_5547-scaled.jpeg?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=pjpg&h=1152&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=1536&wpsize=1536x1536 1536w, https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_5547-scaled.jpeg?crop=faces%2Centropy&fit=scale&fm=pjpg&h=1536&ixlib=php-3.3.1&w=2048&wpsize=2048x2048 2048w, https:\/\/sofar-sounds-blog.imgix.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_5547-scaled.jpeg?crop=faces%2Centropy&fm=pjpg&ixlib=php-3.3.1 2560w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 359px) 100vw, 359px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4080\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sofar NYC with Two Boots Pizza<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><b>Big thanks to Two Boots for being a longtime friend of the Sofar community and a champion of music, creativity, and great pizza. Our shows wouldn\u2019t be possible without incredible local venue partners like Phil! Want to catch a Sofar night near you?<\/b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sofarsounds.com\/\"><b> Explore upcoming shows near you!<\/b><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Before it was a pizza empire, Two Boots was two filmmakers trying to fund their Sundance feature. Nearly 40 years later, the East Village-born pizzeria has become a landmark of a New York slice and creativity. 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